“The Official Bogend Forum for Tooting and Mitcham Utd FC fans”

You are not logged in. Would you like to login or register?

The Barmy Bog End Army » Kingstonian to groundshare with Corinthian Casuals » Yesterday 11:21 am

Looks like they have a deal to start groundsharing from next season.  And looking at their statement, I think they are both looking at it as a long term arrangement.

The Barmy Bog End Army » JAKE BAXTER » Yesterday 9:13 am

Replies: 14

Go to post

When he first played for us he looked useless.  But he was always chasing long balls into the corner.  But after the coaching changes when Hams left and Dale came in he looked a different player.  And the goals came.  So, yes - you do need to play to the strengths of your forwards - especially if they are playing a solo role up front.

Which makes me wonder why we brought him back.  I couldn't see any way that he would fit into our current team - and I don't think he's good enough to change the way the team plays just to suit him.

But best of luck to Jake, and hopefully Frank will have a bit more luck in strengthening the forward department.

The Barmy Bog End Army » Cyrille Regis » 15/1/2018 1:56 pm

Playing for Hayes against us!

The Barmy Bog End Army » Cyrille Regis » 15/1/2018 11:39 am

I see Cyrille passed away today.  He was one of the first players that I saw at our level move to the 1st division and on the England.  I actually only saw him play for about 20 mins away to Hayes.  He was already a name to watch by then, so I had my eye on him.  He had a quiet game but had an influence midway through the first half.  He went down under an innocuous challenge in midfield but need treatment after crashing down onto the icy surface.  His injury prompted the ref to abandon the game!

The Barmy Bog End Army » JAKE BAXTER » 15/1/2018 10:29 am

Replies: 14

Go to post

I don't know about his situation, but it is fairly common for players to hold dual registration with teams from a different league.  I think Josh Jackman is on a dual registration.  I think Claudio Hoban was also on one.  Whether that means you could play for both teams in the same day, I don't know, but presumably it makes swapping between clubs a little bit easier for the player by cutting out a bit of red tape.

The Barmy Bog End Army » RELEGATION BATTLE » 09/1/2018 3:48 pm

Its about this time of the season that I start to look at other teams' results.  Starting with Burgess Hill tonight!

The Barmy Bog End Army » Tooting are Pathetic » 05/1/2018 2:46 pm

Replies: 31

Go to post

As a little bit of background to which level we've played at, before the formation of the Conference, there were 3 leagues of approximately equal standing: Northern, Southern and Isthmian.  Possibly the Isthmian was considered the junior partner, but there was nothing official.  However, when the conference was formed, it only consisted of Northern and Southern League teams.  I don't know why this was the case.  However, in the 3rd season of the conference, 2 Isthmian League teams joined (Enfield and Dagenham).  Enfield did particularly well finishing 2nd and 1st in their first 2 seasons, suggesting that the Isthmian was of fairly equal standard back then.

Incidentally, Enfield and Dagenham didn't earn promotion via league position (Dagenham finished 7th in the Isthmian League the season before.  Again, I don't know why this was the case, but presumably Tooting had the opportunity to apply for the conference as we finished 12th that season.

Whatever the reasons, the Isthmian League effectively became the 2nd tier of non league fromthe 1979-80 season, and hence we found ourselves at that level until we were relegated at the end of 1989.  We have not been at level 2 since.  We spent 8 years at level 3 before the disastrous relegation to Isthmian 2nd division in 1997, thereby playing at level 4 for the 1st time.  We got promoted back to level 3 under Keith Boanas in 2001, but slipped back to level 4 following the introduction of the Conference North and South in 2004-05.  So we had another 4 seasons at level 4 until the promotion under Billy Smith in 2008.  Then 4 more seasons at level 3 until the relegation under Ronnie & Reggie.  It took 5 years before Frank Wilson led us to promotion, back to level 3 where we are today.

So in summary, we have spent the last 29 seasons yoyoing between level 3 and level 4 of the non-league pyramid. (16 years at level 3 and 13 years at level 4)  1989 was the last time we were at level 2 (which is the level of the confer

The Barmy Bog End Army » Tooting are Pathetic » 04/1/2018 12:22 pm

Replies: 31

Go to post

The thing is, we all want our team to win every game and to be successful every season.  But the reality of supporting a team is that you will lose as many as you win (if you're lucky) and that you will also see awful games and disastrous seasons.  And almost every team will suffer relegations from time to time.

Hopefully, the experience of supporting a team isn't solely related to the result on a Saturday afternoon.  It should be a lot more than that.  And you just have to take the rough with the smooth.  Its the bad times that make the good times taste so much better!

The Barmy Bog End Army » CALLUM McNAUGHTON » 02/1/2018 6:10 pm

He's had a couple of good games- notably away at Tonbridge.

But if someone is going to make that sort of fuss over being subbed then it's not ideal for team spirit.

Group unity and respect for each other is more important than one good player.

The Barmy Bog End Army » Can this season end please? » 02/1/2018 6:06 pm

I agree about the team being a bit of a puzzle. I do think some of the manager's selections have been a bit confusing at times. Especially in the wide areas I think he's been inconsistent in that respect. Obviously we have made a conscious decision to go with 2 up front and so getting Folkes in was a good move. But now getting Baxter back seems to signal a different approach.

And at the back Frank has struggled to sort out the long term problems at the back. And even since the arrival of Flegg and McNaughton we still don't seem to have a first choice back 4. Maybe the two new guys will do the job.

I think he has done a good job easing some of the U23s into the 1st team and I'm glad he's shown confidence in DMG as a 1st team regular. Some manager's wouldn't do it.

Obviously our turnover of players is too high. No team is successful if they use 50 or 60 players in a season.

But getting players with the right character at the right price is proving difficult.

The Barmy Bog End Army » Leatherhead Pitch Inspection » 01/1/2018 10:38 am

A heavy dew is enough to get the game called off at Fetcham Grove

The Barmy Bog End Army » Thurrock » 16/12/2017 12:29 pm

Replies: 12

Go to post

Just to pour a bit of cold water on the excitement but it's worth remembering that the game is not "definitely on" until the match referee has inspected the pitch!

The Barmy Bog End Army » Clutching At Straws » 15/12/2017 2:18 pm

Was the man holding the mug wearing this???


The Barmy Bog End Army » Something to Celebrate » 14/12/2017 11:24 am

In your investigations, did you ever come across the story of Mitcham Wanderers centre forward Percy Mitchell of Lansdell Road who died after taking a knock in a Surrey Senior Cup game in the 20s?

The Barmy Bog End Army » Something to Celebrate » 13/12/2017 3:33 pm

Another team, called simply Tooting, entered the FA Cup for the subsequent 4 seasons up to the 1914/15 season, so I would make the assumption that this was Tooting Graveney as well.  Perhaps they changed their name to Tooting and dropped the Graveney.

Anyway, they didn't have much luck - failing to clear the 2nd hurdle in any of these seasons.

They were even knocked out by South Tooting in 1913, losing 2-0 at home!

The Barmy Bog End Army » Something to Celebrate » 13/12/2017 11:54 am

Not a lot of info is available for Tooting Graveney, but I believe they entered the FA Cup once for the 1910/11 season.  They won 3-2 away against West Norwood followed by a win by the same score away at Farncombe.  The run ended with a 9-0 drubbing at home to Old Kingstonians.

The Barmy Bog End Army » Wingate game postponed » 12/12/2017 10:26 am

Something about ice and snow...

The Barmy Bog End Army » seven or ten points before Leatherhead on New Year Day 2018 !!! » 08/12/2017 8:02 pm

Replies: 31

Go to post

Well, I was expecting 3 points against Lowestoft. I'm not expecting more than a point tomorrow

The Barmy Bog End Army » Tower Hamlet 0 Tooting 2 » 05/12/2017 9:41 am

We are away to Met Police or Clapton in the next round.  They play each other tomorrow.  Interestingly, Met Police have put a ban on away supporters attending the game!

The Barmy Bog End Army » The Elephant In the Room » 05/12/2017 9:36 am

Replies: 22

Go to post

Its the more direct swearing that would be the biggest problem.  The unimaginative "You cheating confucius, ref" that might come from a load, lone voice that echoes around the ground is pretty bad.  Everyone in the ground can hear it.  And I'm sure ref's are immune to it, so it is a pointless gesture and will make other supporters uncomfortable.

I don't mind swearing behind the goal, although I think it should be curtailed in the stands.  But you have to remember that everyone can hear you at a non-league game.  Anyway, a cleverly placed "What a waste of skin ref" is wittier, funnier and more likely to be absorbed by the ref.

The Barmy Bog End Army » A hello and a point of view » 05/12/2017 9:25 am

Replies: 18

Go to post

Hello Downthe... I think you have to remember that we are 2nd bottom in the league, and even the most optimistic supporters are struggling a bit!

But its at times like this you have to ask yourself why you go to football and support a particular team.  If its just to win the league every couple of years, then perhaps Tooting isn't for you.  Better off supporting Manchester City.

Supporting a team is like following a soap opera.  Sometimes the story line is crap.  But hopefully you get a certain amount of familiarity with the characters, even though you know they'll leave the show if they get a film part in Hollywood. 

It is difficult following a team that is struggling, but it makes the successful seasons all the more satisfying.  Even a tremendous effort like the win against Tonbridge is a great reward for putting up with Staines.

Obviously at Tooting there is the underlying factor of the ownership saga that has been going on for about 20 years now, but only seems to rear its head when the 1st team aren't doing well.  So at the moment people aren't happy with results and different people see different problems and different solutions.  And that is going to be reflected here on the forum.

I would consider myself to be one of the more optimistic posters on here, but when the results are going so badly, you just can't help having the odd moan up.

The Barmy Bog End Army » Dear Santa » 03/12/2017 3:54 pm

Replies: 14

Go to post

I thought I'd give it 24 hours of reflection before posting as I was very disappointed with the game yesterday. But actually the 1st half wasn't as bad as the 2nd. Their 1st goal, although a header from a corner had a touch of fortune about it. A header from that area wouldn't normally hit the target but it floated into the corner and even our player on the far post had no chance to stop it.

Then we started the 2nd half well and scored an excellent goal and I felt that we would go on to win it. But their 2nd goal was awful. We had 2 players on the post and nobody at the front of the 6 yard box. So you basically had all of their players attacking the 6 yard box at pace such that there didn't even need to be a good connection to get the ball over the line.

For some reason our defence don't seem to have the commitment or strength to get to the set piece delivery 1st. And in this case there was a poor set up in the 1st place.

But more disappointing than that was how our heads dropped after that. Any semblance of teamwork that we had before just seemed to evaporate. Suddenly we were a bunch of individuals. We started shooting from miles out and leaving the defensive responsibility for their team mates. We just watched their guy take an age to put the 3rd one away.

The 4th and 5th were absolute disasters but I wonder if we'd have made those mistakes if our minds were still fully focussed at , say, 1-1.

And there was nothing the manager could do about it. We had nobody on the bench who could shake things up or change the game.

We obviously need a couple of New players. Although Fadahunsi did well yesterday I don't want him as the regular right back this season. And I don't think we can afford to play Rowe and Patterson-Bohner at centre back together again. They are just not doing the job this season.

We could do with improvents in all areas of the park, but we are scoring 1 or 2 per game so that side of things are probably ok for now.

Obviously the manager has att

Board footera


Powered by Boardhost. Create a Free Forum