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| The Barmy Bog End Army » Poets Corner » 20/7/2015 7:48 am |
- bog end tim
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Endo put Harry all in a lather
He upset the Tooting Youth's father
Who sought a cheap thrill
Up at Champion Hill
Disguised in a Pink Balaclava
It took me all weekend to think of that
| The Barmy Bog End Army » EGM » 28/6/2013 10:04 pm |
- bog end tim
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I'm not sure yet whether I fulfil the spineless penis criteria: I would like to have attended tonight's EGM, but couldn't.
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The key questions remain the same.
We know we have a manager, a few players, maybe some sort of limited budget and the possibility of investors. That represents some sort of progress from a month or two ago.
It doesn't address the key questions about the club's future which relate to its structure, communications and transparency.
It's worth asking why the original 'Hub Vision' - a community based club/social enterprise, where the various components operated on a principle of mutual benefit, isn't considered viable any more. Sounded like a great idea to me a few years back: I am still far from clear why that model was abandoned or why it could not be reconsidered in some form or other.
Given that that was the basis on which the club was re-constituted (and leaving aside the other constitutional arguments that have arisen on this site), we need to be given a clear picture as to why that model is no longer considered fit for purpose, if indeed that is the case. Many, if not most supporters contributed to various aspects of the set up (youth teams, gym, bar, play zone, food) beyond paying gate and programme money for first team games (not that there was ever anything wrong with fans restricting themselves to supporting the first team anyhow). We are owed a proper explanation for all of this as well as justification for whatever alternative plan is on offer. Hopefully some of this will emerge over the weekend.
We also need to know why Bill's alternative plan for the club was not considered viable.
Most importantly, we need to have a clear idea of how the T&M will be financed and run, which bits of the organization - particularly the youth set up - remain part of the club, where our money goes when we contribute to the Hub, or whatever it is now, activities, what 'mutually beneficial' arrangements, if any, remain (eg promoting the
| The Barmy Bog End Army » The Coming Season » 15/6/2013 11:02 am |
- bog end tim
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I share Andy's views on this.
Craig Tanner was one of the club's finest leftbacks (and a top geezer) and fully deserves all the fans' support. He will have his work cut out but let's get behind him.
The immediate and long term aim of the club must surely be stability and continuity. Without that, it will make little difference who manages the team. I have scarcely given promotion a second thought since we went down. If we achieved it, it would be a massive bonus and something to celebrate, but it would not cure the cancer that afflicts this club.
Even those of us who have struggled to keep up with the tale of turmoil behind the scenes can draw their own conclusions from the constant turnover of managers, players and other club staff: a recipe for chaos and collapse if ever there was one.
We need a revolution behind the scenes with complete transparency and accountability and full supporters' involvement. It may be that ultimately we can only achieve that through a breakaway club, but I can't bring myself to turn my back on the old bastard yet, and I will be sticking with Craig Tanner's black and white army.
| The Barmy Bog End Army » Into the Void » 08/6/2013 9:22 pm |
- bog end tim
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Thanks, Ash.
Spending the last six six weeks in a darkened room on a diet of anchovies and custard hasn't done any more damage to my mental or physical health than the last couple of years at Imperial Fields, but it would be nice to know whether the club has any plans for the coming season.
Given the continuing uncertainty, a breakaway club may indeed be the only viable option, but it would require united backing from the supporters, and that, presumably, will depend on whether our comatose giant of a club can stagger into action in the next few weeks. From where I stand, it doesn't look promising.
Either way, we need to make an informed decision and a clear and quick indication about the state of the club.would help.
Loyal supporters and all that, but having to wait two months for an announcement is ludicrous.
I do have a pile of stuff ready for the next few programmes though, just in case.
| The Barmy Bog End Army » Into the Void » 07/6/2013 9:45 pm |
- bog end tim
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As a longserving regular, I, like most of us, am used to suffering, but the last couple of years has been akin to rolling naked in barbed wire while drinking my own vomit. Not so much in terms of the - often dire - fare served up on the pitch, but the underlying cancer that seems to have stricken our club.
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Let's not get too carried away over our Glorious History - we had a Golden period in the late fifties and a pretty decent patch in the mid seventies and, of course, we should be proud of all that. But most of the last fifty years has seen gradual decline and - every now and then - spectacular failure.
The thrills and spills - all be it at a significantly lower level and - yes, triumphs - of 2000-2009 made the whole thing worthwhile for me. Teams full of commitment, character and often a fair amount of flair either failing heroically or battling their way through to long overdue triumphs.
Yet every dawn has been a false one, with our failure to build on success. Some of our decline has been outside our control - a crumbling and hugely expensive white elephant of a ground and a battle to survive while the balance of power in local non league football drifted away from London (look at Walthamstow, Hendon, Enfield and the rest - Dagenham survived and prospered by eating other clubs). But throughout my time as a supporter, there has been a general failure to inform, engage or value the supporters, and we are paying the price now (in contrast, I hate to say it, to Sutton - vomit and turd for a strip, black hole of a ground, but a club which involves its supporters and its community eg by promoting itself in local schools).
This was a problem in the Sandy Lane days, but the chasm of indifference towards the supporters has since reached stratospheric proportions.The current absence of any communication, particularly at a time when supporter involvement is - surely - crucial to the club's survival, is beyond belief.
Do we have a team? Do we have a mana
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