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26/3/2022 4:33 pm  #51


Re: Relegation zone creeping nearer!

At 4.30 pm this Saturday afternoon it isn’t looking good for Toots, Sutton Common winning, Westfield drawing, Toots losing. We need a goal at least !!!! Come on Toots !!!! Crikey just checked scores again  at 16.36, Westfield winning, Sutton Common Rovers winning and we are now two nil down. Don't panic Captain Mainwaring, Don't panic !!!
PHEW Hanwell at least has equalised !

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26/3/2022 5:45 pm  #52


Re: Relegation zone creeping nearer!

I was going to write a match report but I honestly can't find the words.
There is no logical timing to what I am going to say with 5 games left. I really think the first team management have gone full cycle with the first team. They have taken the club as far as they can. I think if you got Charlie the kit man as first team manager he would do better job.
The only player who showed any passion,  played with any skill and class was Jordan Clarke.  He was on a different mental and skill level to any other player.
I am just surprised so many people didn't see this coming in August when I told you this would happen. The sad thing is I don't think Steve cares enough to do anything.
I over heard  conversations today by loyal supporters.  They was all asking why not sack all of the management.  After today this can only be the sensible out come surely?

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26/3/2022 5:48 pm  #53


Re: Relegation zone creeping nearer!

🎵One wheel on our wagon, but we're still rolling along.  The Combined Counties are after us, playing matches on cabbage patches, but board is singing a haaappy song!🎼🎶

 

26/3/2022 5:55 pm  #54


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Gary never mind sack all the management steve adkins should sling his hook as well he dont give a toss and at the end of the day this all goes back to him quite frankly i for one hate this tosser for what he has done to this club that i have followed all my life i hope he is proud of himself for what his stupid system has done i wont say what i really feel about this man because i would be sued RIP TOOTING & MITCHAM
ASHLEYS USELESS BLACK & WHITE ARMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

26/3/2022 6:31 pm  #55


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daniel collins wrote:

Gary never mind sack all the management steve adkins should sling his hook as well he dont give a toss and at the end of the day this all goes back to him quite frankly i for one hate this tosser for what he has done to this club that i have followed all my life i hope he is proud of himself for what his stupid system has done i wont say what i really feel about this man because i would be sued RIP TOOTING & MITCHAM
ASHLEYS USELESS BLACK & WHITE ARMY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Steve is waiting to finish what he become owner of  Tooting and Mitcham for. He has been working on the housing project for years.  I don't think it is realistic to expect him to step down. There is many companies that own different aspects of the operation. Which he owns most of them. He even owns the lease.  So unless someone has deep pockets , he is here until he decides he has completed what he wants to do. I am trying to be diplomatic.  I would so love to be Director of Football.  It wouldn't take very much to get a really good set up at Tooting. The core is there, all it's needs is a little heart and love.

 

26/3/2022 6:43 pm  #56


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Sorry gary i dont care what steve is waitng to complete i cant wait for him to get lost he is responsible for bringing a once great club to its knees so please dont try and defend the money grabbing git

 

27/3/2022 5:24 am  #57


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Is there any glimmer of hope left for this season and of the future ?. Is looks and feels bleak right now. A travesty in this great clubs history and it is hard to find the right words that would be acceptable to publish on this forum. Time is running out!

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27/3/2022 9:13 am  #58


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I think that we have to win three games and that Westfield inplode.

 

27/3/2022 10:19 am  #59


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Absolutely evthedog. A disaster if Toots saviour depends on Westfield imploding. Was hoping that the game against Sutton Common Rovers would be the “crunch” game!

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28/3/2022 7:22 pm  #60


Re: Relegation zone creeping nearer!

evthedog wrote:

🎵One wheel on our wagon, but we're still rolling along.  The Combined Counties are after us, playing matches on cabbage patches, but board is singing a haaappy song!🎼🎶

Not the most positive first post on here but I agree, for some reason when I think of the Combined Counties I think of expressions like ‘the old carrot crunchers’ and similar.  I reckon it’s because the name has a similarly to combine harvester. 

It’s turning into a nail biting end to the season, in a way T&M haven’t seen before…..

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28/3/2022 11:03 pm  #61


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Now, looking at how teams are reprieved these days in the third-from-bottom position (working out from points-per-game), there's a load of work to do here.  Looking at all eight teams at this step, third from bottom (in order):

Prescot Cables (Northern PL West), Played 34, Points 33 - PPG = 0.97
East Grinstead Town (Isthmian SE), Played 33, Points 32 - PPG = 0.97

Hullbridge Sports (Isthmian N), Played 32, Points 29 - PPG = 0.96
Sheffield (Northern PL East), Played 29, Points 25 - PPG = 8.86
Cinderford Town (Southern League South), Played 30, Points 25 - PPG = 0.83
Tooting and Mitcham United (Isthmian SC), Played 31, Points 25 - PPG = 0.80
Kempston Rovers (Southern League Central), Played 33, Points 26 - PPG = 0.79
Histon (Northern PL Midlands), Played 33, Points 21 - PPG = 0.64

If T&M keep this position in the league they are well in the relegation playoff zone.  The game against Chalfont will be a make or break https://cdn.boardhost.com/emoticons2/confused.png

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The Isthmian SC division - suburban grimness and misery 
 

29/3/2022 2:55 pm  #62


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Is it only three teams that are relegated?.

If so with Whyteleafe expunged from the table and Staines and Chalfort below us (at the moment), does that mean we are fourth from bottom and currently safe?.

 

29/3/2022 3:01 pm  #63


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No.  The bottom 2 are automatically relegated.  At the moment that is Staines and Chalfont.  All of the eight step 4 3rd bottom teams go into a pool and the teams with the 6 worst points per game record will be at home in a 1 off playoff against a step 5 team.

The Whyteleafe situation has no impact on the relegation picture.

 

29/3/2022 3:26 pm  #64


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Wouldn't Whyleleafe be deemed one of the bottom two though?.

 

29/3/2022 3:53 pm  #65


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Routemaster wrote:

Wouldn't Whyleleafe be deemed one of the bottom two though?.

 
No mate. They didn't complete the season so forget they was even in the league.  Whyteleafe completely folded and started again as AFC Whyteleafe FC  in a couple of leagues lower.

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29/3/2022 4:00 pm  #66


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There are 2 or 3 step 4 leagues with only 19 teams and its clear how its going to work this season.

Now, if Staines were to fold (which I don't think they will) that would throw the cat amongst the pigeons!

 

30/3/2022 2:04 pm  #67


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The Isthmian League have made a statement of help for Staines Town to finish the season. Their away fixture against Chipstead this Saturday will be re-scheduled, and the other away matches, including Tooting, should not be an issue, and alternative arrangement will be made for their raining home games. All of this subject to a temporary solution to the club’ ongoing problems.
 
Let’s hope all of this transpires as the promotion and relegation for the 3 regional leagues will be thrown into chaos if Staines are made to pull the plug on their remaining games. On past form, If this happens all matches involving Staines Town will be made null and void and points gained from Staines will be deducted from all clubs involved. Clearly this would impact all clubs involved with promotion and relegations battles.

Have Tooting been saved from relegation??????????
 
Since 2005: The challenge is to make Tooting & Mitcham United FC the best semi-professional club in the land, one built on sound foundations of good practice in all matters!! (You can’t make this up lol)
 

 

30/3/2022 5:58 pm  #68


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Exciting isn't it!  It might just get the Adkins apologists out of jail and enable them to imbibe in more S&L coolaid next season.

Oh what larks!

 

30/3/2022 7:19 pm  #69


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Sorry ev but the adkins apologists are tin eared and seemed totally sold on our masters great vision of how to run a once great football club into the ground and that includes the useful idiot that runs the members club
in fact i dont even recollect ever seeing Mr Wooley at sandy lane although he professes to be a long time supporter i have been following the club for an awfully long time now and i might not know all the names but i certainly know most of the faces and he aint one of them.

 

30/3/2022 7:34 pm  #70


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You old cynic Dan!  It's all wonderful, especially in the board room!  Get on board and join the yoof revolution at the club.  It's gonna be great!  Get down with the kids!

Maidstone, Dulwich, Dorking, Dover, Wealdstone, Concord, Dartford, Billericay, Tonbridge, Worthing, Lewis, Carshalton, Corinthian Casuals, Horsham, Merstham: we played them all at Imperial Fields. Where are they now?

Who's laughing now?

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30/3/2022 8:01 pm  #71


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Mikem wrote:

Let’s hope all of this transpires as the promotion and relegation for the 3 regional leagues will be thrown into chaos if Staines are made to pull the plug on their remaining games. On past form, If this happens all matches involving Staines Town will be made null and void and points gained from Staines will be deducted from all clubs involved. Clearly this would impact all clubs involved with promotion and relegations battles.
 

Well, I've had a look about and it seems it all depends on whether a team has played more than 75% of it's fixtures (Staines has, as you all know anyway) - the indication seems to be that over 75%, the team (that's dropping out) has it's previous games honoured, and any upcoming fixtures go down as a 1-0 win to the opposing team (which would mean T&M get three free points at the end).

 https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/forum/gforum.cgi?post=735368%3Bguest=111943647

https://fulltime.thefa.com/newsArticle.html?league=391033232&noticePlacementID=998534704&noticeID=57831351

(Couple of examples)

However the FA wording is this:

In the event of a team withdrawing from the Competition before completing 75% of its fixtures for the season all points obtained by or recorded against such defaulting team shall be expunged from the Competition table.

Which says definitely what happens if you don't get to 75% but isn't very clear what happens beyond.........
 


The Isthmian SC division - suburban grimness and misery 
 

30/3/2022 8:21 pm  #72


Re: Relegation zone creeping nearer!

Just had a look at the other Step 4 teams, not much movement really despite a few games - we are sixth out of eight with PPG at the minute - interesting to read that Kendal Town and Market Drayton Town (Northern PL West) are already relegated with no chance to score enough points as are Romford in the Isthmian North.  

Market Drayton Town - 7 points
Kendal Town - 10 points
Romford - 12 points

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The Isthmian SC division - suburban grimness and misery 
 

31/3/2022 8:47 am  #73


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Crikey with all this relegation ifs and buts you need a degree in Maths to try and get your head around it all ! I just hope it favours Toots in the end and that some major changes are made for the better particularly in the First team’s future. We live in hope!

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31/3/2022 9:20 am  #74


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Hi Steptoe,
Nothing has changed for the Football Team since Tooting and Mitcham Sports and Leisure was incorporated in 2000 by Steve Adkins, and will remain so until either he sells up or goes bankrupt as he's always pleading poverty! if they escape relegation the same culture will persist and even get worse. All the fans want is a normal football club, not the abnormal institution which wraps it’s claws around the football team today. The football team was initially a vehicle of convenience to get grant funding and eventually to go bed with Merton Council. All of this aided and abetted by the Members Club and the totally useless Woolley

since 2005: The challenge is to make Tooting & Mitcham United FC the best semi-professional club in the land, one built on sound foundations of good practice in all matters!! (You can’t make this up lol)

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31/3/2022 9:32 am  #75


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STEPTOERIDESAGAIN!!! wrote:

Crikey with all this relegation ifs and buts you need a degree in Maths to try and get your head around it all ! I just hope it favours Toots in the end and that some major changes are made for the better particularly in the First team’s future. We live in hope!

 
I do think the only way that major changes to the first team would be departing with the whole management team and also ended the clubs relationship with FWCG. I can't see that happening when Ashley is a director of one of the companies at Tooting and is in charge of the footballing educational side of the club.  I am actually going to stop posting now and I can't watch anymore of this rubbish.  I do actually think putting in players that are too young too inexperienced and Frankly not got enough for first team football is damaging these players.  Some of them look shot of confidence on Tuesday night. Your not telling me that someone isn't benefiting from given these kids away. Or are they like the Chairman who is building all these flats and building changing rooms not going to benefit at all ? As the Q and A's  The Tooting management and Owner Steve have very kind hearts. So selfless.   
I think you have to except it which I can't or don't go anymore.  Don't look at this forum and get on with life which I keep saying I will do and need to.  There is plenty of good clubs out there. I see our very own Tim Marcus is calling himself a Woking fan as well as Tooting and Everton.  A few years ago he wouldn't dream of watching another Non-League team. Good luck to him, his a great guy and has done enough for this club. I do think I heard his voice on Saturday being the announcer so still doing his bit.
Take care people,  keep smiling.  Life's too short.

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