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09/3/2022 3:00 pm  #26


Re: What is going wrong with our football club

Hello Ev,
Unfortunately on planet Earth. I have to  agree with you, totally disgusting to  have that information on Football and the club. Take a look SCR's fixtures list click on the photo link to  home our home game fixture, Some great photos.

Since 2005: The challenge is to make Tooting & Mitcham United FC the best semi-professional club in the land, one built on sound foundations of good practice in all matters!! (You can’t make this up lol)
 
 
 
 
 
 

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09/3/2022 4:24 pm  #27


Re: What is going wrong with our football club

Ev & Mikem

Clearly those at Sutton Common Rovers have never had THE VISION OF THE HUB

 

09/3/2022 5:41 pm  #28


Re: What is going wrong with our football club

Is the Vision of the Hub anything like Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus being struck blind by the vision of the resurrected Christ?  Or...maybe...he saw a vision of the Hub!

I always knew that my O level RE would come in handy one day.

 

09/3/2022 7:20 pm  #29


Re: What is going wrong with our football club

Ev

I can't speak for Saul of Tarsus but I can speak for Chris confidential Woolley who said on 2nd June 2002 that THE VISION OF THE HUB was:-

The Vision for The Club and The Hub 

We see this will enshrine the following principles:

1. Total transparency between Club and Hub

2. A one cost centre with a unified administration operated on a strictly not for profit basis.

3. The active participation of the Club and all its members in the running of the Club and the Hub to the greater good of both.

4. A substantial growth in the Membership of the Club brought about by the appeal of the Club as a committed partner to users of the Hub.

5. The provision of key local resources the Concept behind which is already attracting interest from other clubs as pioneer and model.

6. The challenge is to make Tooting & Mitcham United FC the best semi-professional club in the land, one built on sound foundations of good practice in all matters.

Maybe someone at themembersclub should show Chris confidential Woolley the road to Damascus

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20/3/2022 11:26 am  #30


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Another heart felt posting from an avid fan sent to  me for posting on this forum.

In any football club if a team loses as many games as T&M has done this season, their manager wouldhave gone and they would have been replaced by an experienced, enthusiastic, and a determined manager, who would make positive changes to bring out the very best in players but that hasn’t happened.

We are where we are in the league because of failings from the top down within the management structure of T&M. Everybody associated with this total mess has failed to see the warning signs, didn’t plan sufficiently enough to put right what was going wrong' although is was very apparent to the supporter what was needed. totally ignored by the Chuckle Brothers because they felt whatever they were doing was right, and they would not listen, perhaps they will listen now, but it’s too late.  Not focusing on the team's performance on the pitch, paying more interest to our Under sides has caused us to be in the position to be where we are. Devoid of ideas, not knowing what to do and where to turn too next we are doomed.

 We can only thank the three amigos for putting us in this position and the failure of our Chairman to get more involved and put them on notice but that will never happen, you and I know that, the supporters know that, but do those behind the club understand where we are and where we are heading. Probably, but do they care, it doesn’t appear so because if they really cared, changes would have be made by now.

 Emergency measures should have been put into place a long time ago. Too late now, and if we go down to Combined County’s league, it will be because the way our  team has been managed and treated throughout the season with over 50 players coming and going. Doesn’t it say it all!  Stefan     

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20/3/2022 12:03 pm  #31


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It doesn't matter what league we compete in Mike, as the yoof program can function at any level.  Going down a league would enable those in charge to put even less cash into the first team.

I am so glad that the enforced break from football as a result of Covid helped me to realise that I could live without watching this shambles of a club, which seemed to have turned the corner just a few seasons ago.

I really really hope that we do not get flushed down the toilet bowl of this league into the sewer of the next one down.

 

20/3/2022 12:31 pm  #32


Re: What is going wrong with our football club

Hi Ev,
Agree totally with your previous comment, although not my posting but Stefan a forlorn long term faithful fan.To be honest the team has not turned any corners since the club was taken over in 2005, when the team was built to  fail. The sentiment was echoed in 2005, but was never taken on board.

Since 2005: The challenge is to make Tooting & Mitcham United FC the best semi-professional club in the land, one built on sound foundations of good practice in all matters!! (You can’t make this up lol)




 

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20/3/2022 1:34 pm  #33


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It does make me wonder what the purpose of the Billy and George appointments and larger budget was about.  Although Billy told me he was paying Simon Parker out of his own pocket. If the intention was to intentionally drop down the division.  I can't believe Steve is so incompetent for this to be a mistake.
At least we have those great memories of the Vines Brothers ,  Matty Yorke, Colin Hartburn , Deano , that brilliant French defender we had.
Sadly I can't see them ever returning. RIP Tooting 🙏

 

20/3/2022 1:41 pm  #34


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Don't forget Gary that the cut was so big virtually all if the first team buggered off too.  I think that Aaron Goode and Jason Henry were the only two who remained.  I thought that Mark Beard worked wonders.

There, to my knowledge, has never been any explanation as to why our two visits to the Premier Division were allowed to crash and burn, and quite frankly, I do not expect one.

 

20/3/2022 1:54 pm  #35


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Look at Mark Beard now. Full time coach at top of the Conference South Dorking Wanderers FC. I so wish Marc White was our owner. Watch his videos on Dorking WFC YouTube.  He is very knowledgeable and his personality is very infectious.
It is very strange. Almost like let everyone enjoy themselves for a while than I will take it all away again. I wonder if the good times with Frank and Billy was a critical times when Steve was going for a application for a different  terms of use on the lease of the Stadium which he owns. I guess only Chris and Steve will ever know.
Is this what they meant when they said " let the good times role !" On their promotional videos? We all knew that was rubbish when we watched it. More smoke and mirrors.

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22/5/2022 1:35 pm  #36


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Members Club wrote:

As some members have asked for an explanation as to the current situation I will respond with a 'one off'. This being an unofficial forum this isn't the appropriate place for general communication of an official nature. The main board together with the MC board have fixed on a policy that we engage with those who have a positive attitude to what we are all trying to achieve. Unfortunately because so much that gets written here that is not based on any evidence but indulges in making unwarranted and untrue attacks on individuals there has been little incentive to engage.
So having got that out of the way I will attempt to give you an update. To give it any kind of context though it has to begin with what has gone before both with us and football in general, particularly how its financed. The fact is the money that comes into football has been syphoned up to the very top level, clubs lower down to fight over what is left. The further you go down the pyramid the less there is to spread around, hardly any club can survive on attendance income and some have resorted to bringing in wealthy directors who treat the team as a hobby until their enthusiasm runs out. Do a search and see how many clubs had money thrown into them and seemed to be going places that have gone in the other direction. That's not the policy at T&M.
If I see another entry about our good old days, I shan't know whether to scream or cry. Over 40 years ago the seeds of destruction were sown through the failure to modernise its practices, its infrastructure and running of its finances were outdated. These situations are a 'slow burn' so by the time we were due to leave Sandy Lane it was on the verge of liquidation, and having scraped through that we almost ended up doing the same thing by running football the same way as the 'good old days'. at the new ground.
 
So to now answer the question 'What is the plan' it is summarised in this statement T&M UTD FC AND IMPERIAL FIELDS have to be made financially viable in a sustainable way till long after both the current  leadership of S&L and the MC have retired. That is why so much effort and money has gone into getting the block of flats approved at the front of the site, a near impossible achievement. There is much more happening to make viability a long term reality so that the football club can have a future, whilst many others don't. The financial cost of running the stadium and Farm Road is enormous, making enough to cover those costs especially through a covid pandemic has been a massive challenge. The innuendo about tens of thousands being taken out of the club need to stop and if you are a true fan speak out against it when it comes your way. 
Following on from what Deepee shared the MC also has a place at the top table. I recognise you all want to know what is going on and you feel frustrated, but T&M is a business and its business has to be confidential. To balance that those fans that are members do have representation at the decision making level. That is through the the MC chairman who is appointed by the MC directors. That is currently me and my role is to represent the membership, fight its corner and also support or oppose the business plan. It comes down to whether you , as members, believe that you can trust me to be your eyes and ears.
So to the thing that part of the business you are really concerned about, the first team. Firstly I can tell you that there is not one person, from the very top down who is not really concerned at our results. The set up over the two past interrupted seasons seemed to be going well so what has happened this year has caught us all by surprise. Initially we thought it was a blip but that now seems not to be the case. I can assure you it is not an issue around money. Everyone is on the case to see how it can be be put right so please give your support. If you are one of those making abusive calls to the club then try offering some help instead and try from here on in to be both positive and objective and don't buy into silly comments.

Chris Woolley MC Chairman 

 
Can we please have a response from the Members Club regarding next seasons intentions ?

 

22/5/2022 3:53 pm  #37


Re: What is going wrong with our football club

You've gotta stop making me laugh Gary!  You'd have more chance of a meaningful answer from your dog!

 

25/5/2022 8:11 pm  #38


Re: What is going wrong with our football club

Gary Walker wrote:

Look at Mark Beard now. Full time coach at top of the Conference South Dorking Wanderers FC. I so wish Marc White was our owner. Watch his videos on Dorking WFC YouTube.  He is very knowledgeable and his personality is very infectious.

Gary. Are you saying that Steve Adkins comments on  Tooting and Mitcham are not very knowledgeable and his personality is not very infectious?😂😨

 

25/5/2022 10:12 pm  #39


Re: What is going wrong with our football club

I know your trying to lead me down a path I am not comfortable with, you naughty boy 😏.
All I will say is that I am extremely disappointed with Steve Adkins. I have seen his faults first hand but I thought or hoped he was better than this. I personally feel it will take a lot of work to undo the damage which is currently being done amongst the Non-League football committee. I have spoken to several players in our league who said the would never play for us under the currently regime.
Senior players know that Tooting no longer value them. Waters laughed at me when I asked him if he was staying.  He said "fxxk no! "
As for Marc, the guy is absolute fresh air the fella. He has something about him that is so infectious. I couldn't see Steve buying all his supporters who wear club colours burgers and chips.
If anybody reading this hasn't seen Marc speaking. Go to YouTube and search Dorking Wanderers FC. I have wasted hours listening to him. On his last video his spoke about sponsorship money. He is very switched on.

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26/5/2022 8:45 am  #40


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The heading to this forum posting is "What's is going wrong with our football club."

Please can someone explain what football club?
Since 2005: The challenge is to make Tooting & Mitcham United FC the best semi-professional club in the land, one built on sound foundations of good practice in all matters!! (You can’t make this up lol)

 

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27/5/2022 12:32 pm  #41


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Blimey Mike.  Your absence from posting was beginning to worry me.

I was beginning to think that a Members Club hit squad had rubbed you out!

 

28/5/2022 9:03 am  #42


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Hello Ev, thanks for your concerns but I have had to  concentrate on other issues than the  "Tin Pot" football club I have supported all my life.

Being rubbed out by Puppet two faced Woolley, who now has his own puppet, doesn't concern me either. Being rubbed out by this shamble of an organisation would be a pathetic move, along with Atkins they really hate this forum because it speaks the "Truth."  DeePee the last vestige of any sensibility and communication skills within the members club quit in total disbelief at the attitude shown to him by the members club.  

I have heard rumours that life long fan Pat Collins has been banned by the members club from matches????!!!!!! I hope Dan or Pat can confirm this disgraceful (For want of a better word) decision.


Since 2005: The challenge is to make Tooting & Mitcham United FC the best semi-professional club in the land, one built on sound foundations of good practice in all matters!! (You can’t make this up lol)
 


 

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28/5/2022 10:32 am  #43


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I bumped into Pat last year and he told me that he can't be bothered anymore due to the way the club is run.  I don't know if he has been awarded the honour of a ban though.
 

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28/5/2022 11:13 am  #44


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As far as i know ev pat was asked to just remove the infamous t-shirt or he couldant come in to that particular match and not that pat or myself are much bothered in going to any games but if either of us decided to go we would and i dont think any of adkins acolytes would be stopping us as me and him were both members of the bog end boys back in the day so stuff em !!!!!!!!!!

 

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