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Bog End Ultra · 27/3/2018 9:01 pm

Toilet.

alanj · 27/3/2018 10:17 pm

Could it be a case of underestimating the opposition, or, saving the team for Saturday, which is more important.
I will let you decide.
Personally, I feel the best team one and good luck to them.
We got exactly out of the game what we deserved, nothing.

DarrenP · 27/3/2018 10:36 pm

Well the effort was there. But the guile, know how, and execution was sadly lacking.

Not a shot on goal until around the 80th minute, where Cray's keeper made an excellent double save from Dan.

I hope resting key players pays off for the weekend.

FairweatherFan · 27/3/2018 10:47 pm

Kevin Lisbie scored from another free header. The lob for his second goal was outstanding.
Still going at strong at 39. The legs might go but the football brain is still there.
We huffed and puffed with little quality. Cray Valley PM fully deserved their victory with a controlled and well thought out strategy.

Bog End Ultra · 28/3/2018 8:31 am

FairweatherFan wrote:
The lob for his second goal was outstanding.

How did he do that ? Unless (which is highly unlikely) someone captured it on their phone, I'll never be able to work it out. It was like a first-time, pirouetted, lob-volley, scissor-kicked, acrobatic, eyes in the back of the head, wonder strike. As hard to describe as it must have been to execute. Think Rudolph Nureyev/Marco Van Basten.

Shame there was hardly anyone there to witness it. What was the crow....sorry, attendance last night ?

28/3/2018 9:31 am

71 !
To be honest I was not one of them. Couldn't see the point of wasting £10 watching a second-rate team play Cray Valley PM in a Mickey Mouse Cup.
When on a poor run you take any opportunity to get back to winning ways so why play the kids ("You win nothing with kids" !!), especially when Wilson seemed to be taking the LSC seriously. A win last night might have given a confidence boost for the rest of the season.

Bondy · 28/3/2018 10:40 am

I always welcome any excuse to miss an England friendly. Even a Terrors defeat.

barnsy1966 · 28/3/2018 10:52 am

I feel our chairman should dig deep into his deep pockets and invest in the club in its players and new players. Which will in turn boost morale and fans to the club as a whole. Since the start of the new season attendance has halved. I believe the club can achieve its goals (excuse the pun) if some sort of investment was done to attract more experienced players to an already capable team.

28/3/2018 11:52 am

It's very easy to say Steve Atkins should "dig deep and invest..." but I'm sure his pockets, like most other people these days are not bottomless and there is a limit to how much he is willing to and can invest. If it wasn't for Steve Atkins we might not have a club now.
Yes a bigger budget might have helped but Frank Wilson decided that last years team was good enough to compete at this level not the Chairman.

alanj · 28/3/2018 12:32 pm

The signs were on the wall as early as our first game against Staines, and what happened, barely any new players of a suitable standard, but relying upon the under twenty three`s, who to be fair have done very well but you can not replace experience at this level.
Without naming names several positions were glaringly obvious, needed improving, but no solutions were forthcoming and as the season progressed, confidence went downhill to the extent we are now witnessing a team appearing resigned to relegation.
Such a shame that all the hard work of last season has not been built upon.
Hopefully the long learning curve we have all been on re;. the Premier division will benefit us next season.

28/3/2018 1:27 pm

Agree with you 100% Alan.
But to continue my previous point (after a lunch of 3 pints of London Pride and a pie) to defend the chairman.
1 Is the Chairman's fault we've conceded the 40 plus goals from corners and free kicks?
2 Was the Chairman to blame that as soon as we go one down, head drop and the games is over?
3 Did the Chairman play up front and hardly have a shot on target for at lest the last 5 games?
4 Does the Chairman decide tactics (or lack of them) and have no plan B?
The list can go on but the answer to each is the same - NO.

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Mikem · 28/3/2018 1:56 pm

During 2008/9 season I made my way to a muddy old field, with a shack as a club house located in Eltham, to watch the Terrors reserve play CVPM in a London Intermediate Cup match. The Terrors won the match, I think the score was 2 or 3 nil. The reserves went on to win the final 1-0 against Sutton at Gander Green Lane. The muddy old field has been turned into a proper ground shared with Greenwich Borough. Although the London Senior Cup once a prestigious competition and second only to the Amateur Cup, the trophy is not taken seriously by the Senior London Club's for a number of years now.

Notwithstanding all of this, congratulations to CVPM who beat some notable teams on the way to the final, and deserve all the credit to make this a momentous season for the club. As for the Terrors what can you say! A team that has failed miserably this season , who in their right mind would pay to watch last night's game after Saturday's dire performance. One thing is for sure, relying on young academy players to fill gaps is not productive from a player's or team point of view, even if there has been a couple of successes. This is a very sad season for the Football Team, we have been dragged back to the dark ages., even before we got to " See the Light at the End of the Tunnel !"

TPF · 28/3/2018 3:52 pm

This goes back to my point that if we do finish bottom of this league we deserve to go down. Forget the reprieve every tooting fan can see that this season has been one to forget. Next season 3 teams will go and if its only one and thats us this year so be it without better players it will be same next year. I was hoping that the match day revenue from dulwich would bring in a few fresh faces for a push in these last few games to have a fight. I was at the game last saturday and the team needs new blood.

DeePee · 28/3/2018 4:23 pm

" I was hoping that the match day revenue from Dulwich would bring in a few fresh faces for a push in these last few games to have a fight."

If they were to be coming in then we'd only have until Saturday to complete any deals - cut off date is 31st March.

Wolfie Smith · 28/3/2018 4:54 pm

DaveM wrote:
Agree with you 100% Alan.
But to continue my previous point (after a lunch of 3 pints of London Pride and a pie) to defend the chairman.
1 Is the Chairman's fault we've conceded the 40 plus goals from corners and free kicks?
2 Was the Chairman to blame that as soon as we go one down, head drop and the games is over?
3 Did the Chairman play up front and hardly have a shot on target for at lest the last 5 games?
4 Does the Chairman decide tactics (or lack of them) and have no plan B?
The list can go on but the answer to each is the same - NO.

So why didn't he sack the manager? Anywhere else if your not good at your job you will be relieved of your duties? That's the chairman's job

evthedog · 28/3/2018 6:59 pm

Wolfie Smith wrote:
DaveM wrote:
Agree with you 100% Alan.
But to continue my previous point (after a lunch of 3 pints of London Pride and a pie) to defend the chairman.
1 Is the Chairman's fault we've conceded the 40 plus goals from corners and free kicks?
2 Was the Chairman to blame that as soon as we go one down, head drop and the games is over?
3 Did the Chairman play up front and hardly have a shot on target for at lest the last 5 games?
4 Does the Chairman decide tactics (or lack of them) and have no plan B?
The list can go on but the answer to each is the same - NO.
So why didn't he sack the manager? Anywhere else if your not good at your job you will be relieved of your duties? That's the chairman's job

Can you see any experienced manager with any knowledge of the set up wanting to come here?

TPF · 28/3/2018 6:59 pm

Totally agree and if you win a football bet its money you never had like the money from dulwich. So this being money that was never intended to have should be put into players. I agree not long is due until window closes could it be paul dale was the only one with connections in which case if frank got no pulling power and players dont want to come maybe time he went. He done a great job but like many others i feel it was paul that done most of the work and bought most of players in players just dont seem bothered has he lost the dressing room or are they purely not good enough.

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Wolfie Smith · 28/3/2018 7:32 pm

evthedog wrote:
Wolfie Smith wrote:
DaveM wrote:
Agree with you 100% Alan.
But to continue my previous point (after a lunch of 3 pints of London Pride and a pie) to defend the chairman.
1 Is the Chairman's fault we've conceded the 40 plus goals from corners and free kicks?
2 Was the Chairman to blame that as soon as we go one down, head drop and the games is over?
3 Did the Chairman play up front and hardly have a shot on target for at lest the last 5 games?
4 Does the Chairman decide tactics (or lack of them) and have no plan
The list can go on but the answer to each is the same - NO.
So why didn't he sack the manager? Anywhere else if your not good at your job you will be relieved of your duties? That's the chairman's job
Can you see any experienced manager with any knowledge of the set up wanting to come here?

Only if they get a decent budget and can bring their own players in. Basically up the creek without a paddle so will have to start all over again. Paul pulled the strings before he left. We didn't replace him with someone with experience and that is probably one of the downfalls.

Last edited by Wolfie Smith (28/3/2018 7:35 pm)