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14/10/2015 4:18 pm  #1


another rant

firstly apologise if i am once again sounding negative,but why are some of guys on this forum sounding reasonably satisfied with the way things are going.a quarter of the season has gone now,and we have suffered yet another defeat,i was not thereand am willing to be guided by people who were that say that we played very well for much of the game,okay,but lets just look at the situation so far this season.we are told we have a good budget in fact better than most in our division,and yet we have lost to whitstable[their only win so far] ,and been beaten by hythe town home ,and away,and they only have three wins.a glance then at the league table,molesley in third! ,they are lucky to get a crowd of 50 or more[i would love to know what their budget is] then in second is corinthian casuals,and they dont even pay their players! iknow we do not have any divine right to be amongst the top teams,but sometimes what goes on at our club beggars belief,time ,and again people who come to our ground,and see the facility that we have there cannot believe that we are playing at such a poor level.a lot of the problems stem from the owner steve adkins,and i hope you might read this steve,you are wasting your budget,the club is being run by
amateurs,you yourself said you dont no much about football,for gods sake bring in someone who does?

 

14/10/2015 4:36 pm  #2


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I stopped reading at 'i was not there'. 

 

 

14/10/2015 5:15 pm  #3


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dac123 wrote:

I stopped reading at 'i was not there'. 

 

Mr you're a better man than I.

 

14/10/2015 6:20 pm  #4


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Maybe that was a bit harsh from me. I think the point is, we all recognise there are issues with our club, but I am just not sure that constant complaining over and over again, and making the same points, over and over again, does anything to change the situation. Especially not making a new thread for each seperate complaint. 

Everyone is entitled to their say, this is mine. 
 

 

14/10/2015 6:30 pm  #5


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Danny, A superb posting,  not a word out of place.

 

14/10/2015 6:33 pm  #6


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dac123 i take your point about moaning & groaning,but really cant see this club moving on without some change thats the point i am trying to make,no i wasnt there last night,and thats why i said i bowed to the peoples opinions who were there,anyway what is your opinion on how we might get some change?

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14/10/2015 6:59 pm  #7


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Danny your email, punctuation allowing, was spot on . But we the Tooting faithful love the roller coaster that is Tooting. We moan when its cultured football on the floor, not getting consistent results but good to watch and follows the Academy ethos and structure but prefer the hoof it style they are used to - then complain when it doesnt get the results. So get rid of Tanner and Moriarty . They get Hamms in for his experience to support the latest managerial trialist who promptly gets fed up and leaves. This leaves an inexperienced manager without any knowledge of non league, not even played at that level i dont think (help someone?) little experience or know how to fend for himself . But amazingly then fall in love again with the footy on the floor buuuuut we lose. 
But fear not Adkins who admits he knows little about football but its his money so.,... brings another person with at least an A license (at least a good move for the academy) but with little non league experience in alongside Frank . Now what ever we think it doesnt matter!! Adkins does not hear the fans and he doesnt care . He loves the kerching of the tills but will not invest in a decent manager . Now if Adkins is telling Frank that his job is safe ('dont worry about Whitstables only victory against us and the 2 out of 3 wins Hythe got? son your job is safe.
Frank must keep his knives in a safe place otherwise Adkins may just be using the same knives that Frank himself used on his best mates Tanner and Moriarty ....but that is Tooting and we must love it cos we keep going back for more.We might not go to every game but we care just as much. 

 

14/10/2015 7:16 pm  #8


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Danny - I don't think anyone is happy with the current situation but I think some of us have just been feasting on the crumbs that have fallen from the table of despair.

But I have never thought that budget equals league position.  Look at Carshalton a few years ago.  And on the opposite side of the coin look at Whyteleafe last season and maybe South Park and Molesey this season.   Its teamwork that carries them through.

As for Steve Adkins - as far as I can see there is nothing you can do about his position at the club - so there is no option but to accept it.

 

14/10/2015 7:33 pm  #9


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roger understand perfectly what you are saying.of course i accept that steve owns it all what i am asking is that he stops trying to think that he knows enough to appoint managers when he clearly doesant,when you dont know enough be honest to put your hand up,and say so.

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14/10/2015 7:38 pm  #10


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What is Hayden Bird's record? It took him 3 1/2 seasons to gain promotion at Merstham,  with a bit of improvement each season. But what else has he done? I don't know if he's had promotions at any other club he's been at.

 

14/10/2015 8:41 pm  #11


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If he had full control Gary, he would leg it with the float from the bar.

Last edited by alanj (14/10/2015 8:42 pm)

 

14/10/2015 8:56 pm  #12


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You can't deny he is quite an experienced manager but I don't think he got promoted with either Carshalton or Bromley.  So to say that he would come to Tooting and lead us straight to promotion is a bit of a leap of faith. His record doesn't suggest guaranteed promotion.

 

14/10/2015 11:01 pm  #13


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I was scrolling through this thread thinking about how I might best respond to the plea for some change from Danny (in his second posting above).
And then I found 59er had summed it up.

Change is about all we have had this season!
And although we now have a(nother) new coach and can probably expect some new recruits shortly (this is not me boasting if any insider knowledge) to bolster the squad what we surely need is a period of stability so that our team can become..........a team.

 

15/10/2015 12:12 pm  #14


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Could not agree more "Bondy" stability and togetherness, two important ingredients toward success, followed by a leader in full control, which at this level is a big ask.

 

15/10/2015 2:34 pm  #15


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I agree Bondy but Adkins has a funny way to keep the First team stable we had 2 years of stability with assurances of a three year plan and he blows the doors off on a whim ...or on the advice of key people in the club who know about the game ???? stability is the key but for ANY manager or assistant manager or coach hired by Adkins there never will be ANY guarentees afterall there isnt a track record to prove it is there? 

 

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