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The Barmy Bog End Army » Isaiah Jones Squares the Circle » 06/5/2025 4:47 pm

During the 58/59 season Tooting were drawn at home to Nottingham Forest in the 3rd round of the FA Cup before a crowd 14,700. They drew at home when Referee Ron Warnke awarded a very controversial penalty to save the game for Forest. The National Press were outraged at Warnke’s penalty decision.

The reply at the City ground was played before a crowd of 42,362, and Forest won 3-0 escaping the humiliation of being the first premier (1st Div) club to dumped out of the cup by an amateur side!

Forest made it all the way to the final and were joined by Luton Town. Forest won the Final 2-1 with ten men (No subs then) when winger Roy Dwight broke his leg, but not before scoring a goal before being injured.

On the 10th January Isaiah Jones joined Luton Town from Middlesbrough, and the next day was selected to play in the FA Cup 3rd round against Nottingham Forest. Forest and Town had never met in the FA CUP again since the 1959 Final. Another amazing coincidence, Dwight became the Manager of T & M in 1971.
All of this linked by Isaiah Jones

The Barmy Bog End Army » Delusional Stefan » 30/3/2025 6:42 pm

SUPPORTER STEFAN HAS REQUSTED I POST THIS MESSAGE ON HIS BEHALF

I think we are delusional to think if Tooting & Mitcham are going to progress without change.

If the supporters are to return, to see exciting football, the manager (whoever is in charge) come next season,
has to have good player contact and bring players in who are prepared to play for the club, but I can’t see
that happening because the person who has full responsibility of the club, does not want to see this club
progress and become what it once was, a great club, with players who played with passion, commitment,
energy, and had the skills that were needed to compete with the best in their respected league.

I want to make it clear, that the players we have, have tried their best, but unfortunately with the exception of their
captain, others have fallen well short of what the supporters expect to see on the terraces, and for that reason alone, a change of manager and management team is needed.

In the past, if results were not forthcoming the manager and his team were replaced. So are we saying that those
currently in charge, are happy with what they see, week in, week out ?

Are they happy see an official Tooting & Mitcham Utd website, that’s never updated. What impression does that give to the supporter or a football fan who wishes to know more about our club.

Our previous manager thought youth was our future, and played them, inexperienced players, who thought they
could cut it, but not without experience players who could hold their own against similar opposition. It was too late,
the team was relegated, and we have struggled ever since.

Somehow, we have lost the blend of players needed, to improve our position on the pitch, but do good players now
want to come and play their football at our ground or do they stay away because the structure is not what it should
be. Money alone can’t be the issue of why footballers are not attracted to playing their football at Im

The Barmy Bog End Army » Relegation zone creeping nearer! » 19/3/2025 6:43 pm

Fleet Town will probably finish 5th with Tadley fighting for that position as well. 
The win last night was against a very poor Chipstead who are fighting relegation in this very poor grassroots league! 90 spectators attended for what is a local Derby!

Fortunately With the team Tooting have,  they will not be outplayed and humiliated if ever they get promoted!


 

The Barmy Bog End Army » Sporting Venue » 16/3/2025 1:04 pm

A long standing Terror fan would like to introduce you to a unique sporting venue in Mitcham. Worth taking a look at the Website.

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Thinking of playing tennis this summer ?
 
Why not consider Elmwood Lawn Tennis Club
Rear of 337 Tamworth Lane, Mitcham CR4 1DL
 
Small friendly club in a secluded and private setting
on the edge of Mitcham, with three excellent all-weather courts.
 
Club house available for hire, with access to garden and onsite parking.
 
Further information, telephone on 020 8640 1829 or via club website
www.elmwoodlawntennisclub.co.uk 
 
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The Barmy Bog End Army » Stefan a long standing Supporter vents his Frustrations and Anger » 09/2/2025 10:50 am

Stefan,  as requested me to  post his opinions on this forum

When I first started supporting T&M around 2004 /2005 Ricard Cadette was the manager,
and he played exciting, entertaining football, which continued under Billy Smith and
George Wakeling. They were great times. Now we play boring, dull football, without
passion and enthusiasm (in my personal opinion) so what’s gone wrong ?
 
I ask myself, why do I sit in the stand watching my team play like they do, often in the
freezing cold, and without a local tea bar as there once was, in the stand I sit.
 
What enjoyment am I getting for the £10.00 I’m paying, in a league fitted to where we
are in non-league football, and probably where we will finish.
 
Knocked out in the very earliest round of the FA Cup without a whimper, when it
should be a players and managers dream to focus on getting as far as possible in
this wonderful competition.      
 
Can I see goals coming from the wings, where we once created, or from mid-field
to once recognised strikers.
 
Can anybody blame me if I just walked away to never return or do I sit and endure
another season of disappointed. 
 
Why does it upset me to see teams like AFC Whyteleafe and Redhill play with
confidence and scoring freely, when my own team struggles in every department on
the pitch to earn a point or three.  However, credit to them. They are there for a good
reasons, and deserve to be there on merit alone.
 
We were a great club, but not anymore. Great clubs at least fix the men’s toilets
when they need repairing. But not us, that’s why we are going down the pan unless
by some miracle, the man at the top wants more then he is seeing, but then is he
watching or does he want football at Imperial Fields . Only he knows, but me, I’m
one lemming who refuses to jump over the cliff and prefers to walk away and live
another day. Something needs to change and for the better, as it needs to change
fast before more supporters

The Barmy Bog End Army » Further thoughts of long standing suffering fan Stefan » 25/9/2024 9:39 pm

Sorry Ev, at least two other cup comps to  go:-

London Senior Cup V Wimbledon Youth Team
Surrey Senior cup    V Farnham, after a bye from the previous round.... So Bye Bye!!!!


 

The Barmy Bog End Army » Further thoughts of long standing suffering fan Stefan » 22/9/2024 8:03 am

Regulars to the site may remember my email of the 7/8/2024. Well, let’s get real! 
 
Another cup exit, another defeat, dropping down our league and still no recognised striker,
with minimum support by our midfield.  It’s time to get real Tooting & Mitcham.
 
The results can’t continue. A change of management must surely be considered or lose
the support of the supporters who are not getting value for their money, watching their
team who have forgotten to score goals, and let’s them in the other end!
 
It’s as simple as that! If the results are not forthcoming, then the manager must go or
embrace boring football for the rest of the season. I’m personal not going to tolerate
that which is a shame, supporting a club since the days of Richard Cadette when
football was exciting and when we attracted players that had a desire and a want to
win attitude.  Attitude is everything, and if a player and management doesn’t have it,
along with the talent a player should have to play at this level, then serious talks need
to be had with player and management alike, and if a resolution can’t be found, then
one needs to be shown the door, for the benefit of the long-suffering supporter and the
club itself.  The club can’t endure another relegation battle at the end of the season!   
 

The Barmy Bog End Army » The despairing thoughts of Stefan » 04/8/2024 9:57 pm

As previously requested, I have been requested by long time passionate supporter Stefan to post this message on his behalf.

Something is fundamentally wrong, when year after year, our football club (Tooting & Mitcham ) continues
to fail at the first hurdle of the FA Cup and in the league itself.
 
You only need to look at the very top of our club and down to see why.
 
I ask a straightforward question, if you were running a business would you like to see it keep failing year after year,
with staff (players and management) keep coming and going, with no plan or idea how to put things right.
 
In the case of T&M something needs to change and change fast.
 
The supporters can see it, but can the club see it and are they really bothered to do something about it ?
Not on the evidence of today’s result. Not on the evidence on the amount of trialist who have featured this summer,
and the results achieved, poor to say the least. Who is the team ?  Are they good enough for this league ? 
Should they consider retirement ?  So, may questions that lead to the question – Does management know what they
are doing ? Should we not have a recognised striker by now ?  Why should I spend good money and time watching a team,
that have no desire, no self-belief, a poor attitude on and off the pitch, a team that will untimely fail, because there is no
plan to win, and that was born out by today’s result.
 
Football is a serious business and if players and management fail to understand how important it is to do well in the
FA Cup, then they might as well pack up their bags and go home. There is no place for losers in this competition or
the league itself .  Not if you want supporters to return to the stands and get behind their team. And after so many
exceptionally poor seasons (far too many for me to remember) then a change at the top and down will need to
happen, but we all know that will never happen and the team will continue to flounder. Prove m

The Barmy Bog End Army » Google Search » 01/9/2023 9:51 am

Just accessed via google to this forum site, no obvious problems.

The Barmy Bog End Army » Tooting out of the FA Cup » 09/8/2023 3:32 pm

Hi Paul, the extent of the fall out for getting relegated to the   dregs  and obscurity of  lowly  level 5 football still keeps giving.

With Tooting even disappearing from the Football Pages website, except under special circumstances, team sheets including subs, and attendances are not available on a live basis! The score last night was only updated a day after the event. However, according to  the FA website the attendance was declared as 135,  there was no attendance recorded for the away game at Newham.

Yet again The club has lost and opportunity to bring the sponsorship money rewards for appearing in the FA Cup as the rounds progress. But as we know from past experience the rewards would only be offset against the allocated budget. 

The combined Counties league administration is hopeless, so info on games will be difficult to obtained on a timely basis.  The embarrassment of being dumped out  so early from this competition is a disgrace to the name of Tooting & Mitcham United. 

Anyway congratulations to  Adkins, Woolley, Shaw, The Members Club and Cox director  of Football who knows squat all on the subject Cox  that well known director of Football , who actually knows  squat all on the subject.

And last of all Bosah who lead the team to  disaster with the help of the above, and hung on to the bitter end and showed no shame when he should have gone months earlier. 

What a state. 

Since 2005:  Quote “The challenge is to make Tooting & Mitcham United FC the best semi-professional club in the land, one built on sound foundations of good practice in all matters!! (You can’t make this up lol)





 

The Barmy Bog End Army » Roger D » 12/6/2023 8:09 am

Welcome Roger D, I have approved your participation on this forum despite the fact you did not answer one of the questions correctly awaiting approval. Not sure how long you have been supporting the club, but the answer FA Cup was wrong!

You seem like a genuine fan not like those  scam bots I have to  clear everyday from this forum.

The Barmy Bog End Army » This is where we are now » 15/5/2023 11:37 am

I hope what's happened to Tooting sinks in a little more now. Even shown last in this latest information!!!!!

Combined Counties League Step 5 – Premier Division South (CCLS) 1 Abbey Rangers 2 AFC Croydon Athletic 3 Alton 4 Balham 5 Camberley Town 6 Cobham 7 Colliers Wood United 8 Epsom & Ewell SC1 9 Farnham Town 10 Fleet Town 11 Guildford City 12 Horley Town 13 Jersey Bulls 14 Knaphill 15 Redhill 16 Sandhurst Town CCL1 17 Sheerwater 18 Spelthorne Sports CCLN 19 Tadley Calleva 20 Tooting & Mitcham United ILS

The Barmy Bog End Army » Fans Forum Thursday 30th March 8-9pm » 31/3/2023 10:54 am

Long time avid fan Stefan asked me to  post his notes which he was going to  raise at last nights farcical meeting. I understand the meeting was exactly as predicted, and clearly no one cares about team team and it's demise to  junior football.
 

 [size=100]Your incompetence of not listening to the supporters, keeping faith with a failing manager, season after season, and a Chairman who wants what he sees, is an insult to the supporters of this club and their intelligence how this club has been managed and it's too late now to do anything about it, because you [color=#2b2b00]would [/co

The Barmy Bog End Army » Fans Forum Thursday 30th March 8-9pm » 24/3/2023 8:53 pm

Hi Dan, thanks for update on Brassneck, I remember his postings, no comment. Steve Harold, Waste of time vouching for SR, I invited him to apply again after Gary Walker vouched for him, but he did not bother to  respond, a  great voice of reason, plus his a Adkins and Woolley apologist!. The situation gets worse.

The Barmy Bog End Army » Fans Forum Thursday 30th March 8-9pm » 24/3/2023 8:31 pm

Hi Dan, thanks for update on Brassneck, I remember his postings, no comment. Steve Harold, Waste of time vouching for SR, I invited him to apply again after Gary Walker vouched for him, but he did not bother to  respond, a  great voice of reason, plus his a Adkins and Woolley apologist!. The situation gets worse.

The Barmy Bog End Army » Fans Forum Thursday 30th March 8-9pm » 24/3/2023 5:42 pm

Well, Well Steve Reynolds is in involved with this forum meeting. This geezer put me through the hoops to  get onto  the forum, and I had to hold back and protect the forum users  due to his email suppliers  having a scam record ! Gary Walker contacted me to  vouch for him and let him join the forum. I sent a message to  SR to  apply again but never heard anything. What a waste of time and space!

This forum meeting goes from bad to  worse. 

The Barmy Bog End Army » Fans Forum Thursday 30th March 8-9pm » 24/3/2023 7:22 am

 I honestly cannot see any point of the fan’s forum with the management team, there have been many of these useless waste of time meetings over the years which have only provided the fans to vent their frustrations without any action being taken, because of the strangled hold structure and the so called “Project “which runs this Football Team.

A fans forum with Woolley and Adkins would have been appropriate, but you can’t “Shut the Gate after the horse has bolted”.  I repeat my previous messages, the team was built to fail when the Members Club was incorporated and the existing Tooting and Mitcham United Football Club Ltd was disbanded to create this mess.

What is this meeting going to achieve, it cannot change anything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

The Barmy Bog End Army » SR your registration is not approved » 21/2/2023 6:38 pm

Stephen R,
The previous administrator for the forum Gary Walker has vouched for you to  be activated on the forum. All you need to  do is apply using a different email address which can be fully verified.

The Barmy Bog End Army » SR your registration is not approved » 20/2/2023 1:21 pm

Stephen
I have received your email vis th forum provider concerning your approval for active participation on the Bog End forum.

Firstly there is NOT a problem with your email address, the problem is with the company that provides access Sites@xec.co. The provider has a very poor SCAM rating and I am unable to give you access as I am trying to  protect all  forum users. I hope this problem can be resolved if you use another email address, this will save everyone's frustrations!

The Barmy Bog End Army » SR your registration is not approved » 19/2/2023 9:24 pm

Stephen , thank you for providing your first name, however I am unable to  approve your active access to  the bog end forum for the reason explained in my first posting.

Your email address carries the under mentioned warning

The owner of the website and email addresses (SITES@XEC.CO) is hiding his identity. Spammers use this information to promote services to website owners. Some website owners therefor chose to hide their contact details. However, it can also be misused by scammers. Our algorithm gives a high rating if the identity of the website owner is shown. The Sites@xec. co has a very low rating, plus it does not have an SSL certificate.

 

The Barmy Bog End Army » SR your registration is not approved » 14/2/2023 12:35 pm

 Having reviewed your registration application to be an active member on the BOG END forum, I have to reject your application for the following reasons:
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[*]Using initials is not a good start, many of the users at least there first name whatever their views are! Your email address you use raises several suspicions!
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2 After a search of your email address sites@xec.co the following was found: -

The owner of the website is hiding his identity. Spammers use this information to promote services to website owners. Some website owners therefor chose to hide their contact details. However, it can also be misused by scammers. Our algorithm gives a high rating if the identity of the website owner is shown.

The forum has many scam attacks every day from Russia, the idiots think we are part of the UK military!

Please forward a more open registration and I would be pleased to approve you.

The Barmy Bog End Army » Special delivery from Guernsey » 27/12/2022 3:14 pm

Another fan has sent me his views on yesterday's gameI went to the dreadful game. I feel I witnessed at least one if not two teams going down this season.  It was nice to catch up with a ex K's and Dulwich player Toni and his son. I left feeling really upset . More than I thought I would with the players on show which are just not good enough.  This would be no surprise to anyone who goes regularly.  I left feeling really sad on how the owner and management have let the club just run down in such a way.
 After the game the owners have turned the lights off in the car park which for me is very dangerous.  Cars reversing out of spaces not being able to see pedestrians. The money they are saving on electricity will be small compared to the money they will be sued if there is an accident.  Disgusting behaviour! Just shows how little they now care now they have their planning permission.  

 

The Barmy Bog End Army » Special delivery from Guernsey » 27/12/2022 8:32 am

Loyal Supporter  Stefan has requested I post his views of yesterday's match on the forum.

Strange one this. I was at the match where we won 1-0 against Guernsey, but our play once again was terrible!
 
We played against a team that had a number of 16 / 17-year-olds which we should have beaten them by more than one goal! 

 

The Barmy Bog End Army » HAPPY CHRISTMAS » 24/12/2022 7:24 pm

Happy Xmas to all Bogenders, and thank you for the support you have given this forum, and for Gary Walker’s hard work maintaining this forum until recently. And thank you to all those long-time supporters who have given up on the club over the last few years but still view this forum. Those very long serving volunteers who have given unbelievable service over many years, thank you for your efforts on keeping the football team functioning.

I wish everyone a very productive, success and Happy New year, despite the owner and the members club looking for any excuse or blame game for winding the football team up! This would not be the first time. 
 

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